[Dreamboat] LQ & Magazine - ForeignerMonger's Take

[MagicMan76 at aol.com]

Wow!  What a very detailed selection process... I really enjoyed reading your 
perspective on things.  Thanks for sharing that!

I would've taken the same route you did, for the same reasons... except when 
you got to the track list.

I would've went one step further and (as much as I LOVE the song) I would've 
removed "Say Hello" just because it seems more like a filler "hootenanny" 
song, which is one of the things I love about Ann & Nancy, but we're talking about 
a process of elimination.  I also would've combined "Cry To Me" and "Go On 
Cry" into one track by making the title be "Cry To Me (Go On Cry)", just like 
the same feeling as "Sylan Song" and "Dream Of The Archer".

Now, mind you, I am not trying to CHANGE your list or your opinion... I'm 
just giving my take on it.
The only thing that I would feel the need to point out about you including 
"Heartless" & Devil Delight" on the "Dog & Butterfly" album is that you pushed 
"Straight On" to SIDE 2 of the album and that would never work.  Their concept 
for that album was to have SIDE 1 be the "DOG" side with all the upbeat 
rockers and SIDE 2 was the "BUTTERFLY" side with all the ballads.
Perhaps you might have taken something like "Cry To Me" to use on the 
"Butterfly" side and then add "Devil Delight" to the "Dog" side, while leaving 
"Heartless" on the "Little Queen" album.  Just a thought...

So, anyway... my track list would look like this :

SIDE 1:

Barracuda
Heartless
Love Alive
Dream Of The Archer (w/Sylvan Song)
Magazine

SIDE 2:

Little Queen
Kick It Out
Devil Delight
Treat Me Well
Cry To Me (Go On Cry)


- Rich


In a message dated 11/2/2005 12:15:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
hccringo at adelphia.net writes:

> Howdy, Mongers!
> 
> Finally had some time to answer this one: if I were to condense LQ &Mz into 
> the all-important followup to DREAMBOAT ANNIE, how would I sequence it down 
> to the standard-issue 10 track release?  BTW, all Mz tracks would be from the 
> final version.
> 
> Start with 18 tracks - three tracks go away immediately:
> 
> MEBlues, ...Music In Me &Without You - Both live tracks made Mz's Side 2 
> feel lopsided.  Had all of Side 2 been live, I might have forgiven that.  And 
> even though "Without You" remained a live staple up until around '80, and my 
> mom &I do enjoy singing it in the car when I bring it along, the song is kinda 
> weak for me, even with Heart's performance. 
> 
> (15) Two more Mz tracks go away next:
> 
> Just The Wine &Here Song - Both very beautiful.  Love 'em both, I swear I 
> do.
> 
> But having those 2 on the sophomore effort would easily lead critics to say 
> Heart couldn't do an album without repeating the DREAMBOAT formula of a short 
> acoustic ballad (HS) &a longer acoustic ballad with strings &flute (JTW).   
> As B-Sides, tho', they'd make killer collectibles.
> 
> (13) OK, what has to go from LQ?  Sylvan Song
> 
> Awright, don't faint.  Let me rephrase that.
> 
> I wouldn't have delineated that as a separate song; I'd have just left SS as 
> part of "Archer" and left it as one long song, just like they eventually did 
> for THE ROAD HOME.
> 
> If you're keeping score, this puts LQ at nine tracks, Mz at 3.
> 
> Now, one might ask if the DREAMBOAT formula apply to "Cry To Me" &"Treat Me 
> Well?" - and if yes, do they go?  CTM is a short, bittersweet ballad which 
> gives way to "Go On Cry," and "Treat Me Well" is a longer acoustic ballad with 
> strings, with Nance singing this one.
> 
> Now, do they go?  No. [Nance fans heave sigh of relief.]
> 
> This album is still early in Heart's career, so Ann &Nancy are not about to 
> give up every single acoustic track.  The "Archer" suite &the "Little Queen" 
> midsection are not gonna be the only spots where Nancy's acoustic skill 
> shines through.
> 
> JTWine &Here Song feel more like half songs.  Although "Wine" does have a 
> semblance of a chorus, it still feels like part of a song, more like verses 
> with that French line that sunsets towards the end.  "Here Song" is basically 
> one stanza with guitars, flutes &strings; no verses, no room for a chorus.  
> 
> "Treat Me Well" &"Cry To Me" feel more complete as songs.  They give me a 
> more satisfying feeling of having been able to walk around in their atmosphere 
> before they give way to another song.  Critics might still grumble that even 
> with Nancy singing, TMW still works as nothing but a sad version of the Annie 
> reprise while CTM Fantasy Childs up to Go On Cry.  If they do, then they're 
> not paying attention to what each song says; they're looking for an easy 
> pundit for their Magazines.
> 
> LITTLE QUEEN would have remained this album's title, because the overall 
> woodsy theme still dominates, but placing "Magazine" at the end of Side 1 gives 
> us a centerfold of beautifully wrapped acoustic guitar, piano &electric 
> guitar that ends on a dreamy, but not prissy, note.
> 
> SIDE 1:
> 
> Barracuda
> Love Alive
> Dream Of The Archer (w/SS)
> Kick It Out
> Magazine
> 
> SIDE 2:
> 
> Little Queen
> Treat Me Well
> Say Hello
> Cry To Me
> Go On Cry
> 
> OK, now that I've completely cut up the '78 Magazine, am I tossing 
> "Heartless" &"Devil Delight" in the garbage?  Absolutely not.  
> 
> SIDE 1:
> 
> Cook With Fire (Live) - I liked this one, OK?  Plus, Heart wrote it, so it 
> stays.
> High Time
> Devil Delight
> Hijinx
> Heartless
> 
> I think one needs a bit of "Hijinx" between those heavy hitters from 
> MAGAZINE.
> 
> SIDE 2:
> 
> Straight On
> Dog &Butterfly
> Lighter Touch
> Nada One
> Mistral Wind
> 
> 
> There, now I've given y'all 2 10-track albums.  Enjoy!
> 
> LATAH From Stranger And Still (aka ForeignerMonger)
> 
> HCC
> 




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